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- From: vid.pecjak@guest.arnes.si (Jernej Pecjak)
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- Subject: RE: <<< IMPPRESSION ABOUT APOLLO 4060 >>>>
- Date: 17 Apr 1996 21:19:24 GMT
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- >> - The Apollo is certanly faster than my previous A1260, although sysinfo
- >> says it
- >> is 39MIPS. Mac runs about 20% faster than A1260.
-
- >Have you done any real life tests to see how much faster?
-
- No, as I do not own an A1260 any more.
-
- >> - Everything seems to work just fine except benchmark programs for testing
- >> video
- >> and CPU speeds (note: I also got a CV64 card, but can not make a
- >> benchmark for it).
- >> - VMM works (it doesn't quit righ, but it happened before wth my A1260
- >> also).
- >> - All aplications I have work. I have no processor and gfx cards with
- >> Wordworth
- >> 5 and other programs. I couldn't find a program not to work on Apollo if
- >> it did run on A1260. SOme programs do not like the 060, like ixemul etc.
- >> This is NOT Apollo's fault.
- >> - The system seems stable to me if you don't mess with Shapeshifter and
- >> SCSI too
- >> much.
- >>
- >> BAD:
- >>
- >> - SCSI-II is non standard to say the least. It is next to non functional
- >> also.
- >> It works from amiga side not to well (the CD change detect is VERY bad
- >> and the JAZ drive change detect is non existant). Also if the Jaz spins
- >> down, you have to reboot. This didn't happen with squirrel I had before.
-
- >I think you are fairly quick to blame the Apollo here. I have written an
- >email to you earlier with some suggestions.
- >Of course, you _might_ be completely correct.
-
- Hm, the Squirrel did work with allthe same my devices, so it is not just the
- devices. Jaz spined down with squirrel after 30 minutes, but it spined right up
- again. With Apollo it doesn't spin up again, and even reinserting the cartridge
- doesn't help.
-
- >> - Most of the diagnostic and salvage functions crashes when it comes to
- >> SCSI
- >> devices.
-
- >Which functions?
-
- Like running Disk Salvage 4, SysInfo 3.23 (drive tests) etc.
-
- >> - Booting from a SCSI device is stupid. You must have your HD setup as unit
- >> 0,
- >> 1, etc. So you can not boot from ZIP drive. Special prepare program must
- >> be writen on RDB which is for amga only. It is hard to mount non amiga HD
- >> even with Cross Dos (you must make a mountlist for that).
- >> - Shapeshifter and SCSI DO NOT work. Not even if you say a HD or CD to be a
- >> device disk (whoich was mounted on Amiga first). Not even working with CD
- >> using mounting as a device with EMPCD. Nothing. Zero! There must be
- >> something wrong in the SCSI-Apollo.device, but funny that the HD works
- >> from amiga side quite well. Apart of that, SS runs without flaws. *
- >> - The memory isn't linked together. You must have 32Mb simm to have 32Mb
- >> continuous memory. But if you have 32 Mb and another 8 it should link
- >> together, because the 32Mb is as much as it goes in one socket, so the
- >> next
- >> 8Mb would start when the first one ended. It is my speculation at this
- >> time. I will post this when I find another simm.
-
- >Have you checked it? I am curious about it too.
-
- I just got another 32Mb simm. I will try tommorow and let you al know.
-
- >> CONCLUSION:
- >>
- >> If you will leave the SCSI alone in the dark, I reccomend this board. It
- >> has no crashes, at least on A4000, if you don't mes with SCSI. Hovewer,
- >> with the price tag 1950 DEM I paid, it is NOT a good board. SCSI should be
- >> working! There is no excuse for that. I must buy a fastlane now to boot
- >> properly. So this is VERY bad. But on the other side, the board now costs
- >> 1600 DEM. The new Cyberstorm II will cost 1450 DEM. If you think it that
- >> Apollo desn' have SCSI built, so doesn't the cyberstorm. So Apollo is 150
- >> DEM more expensive. One thing Apollo is and Cyberstorm is not is existance.
- >> I wa waiting for Cyberstorm for 3 months now. The new date is End of May.
- >> This is BAD. They are delaying it even further every day. So 150 DEM more
- >> for a board which works is not so bad. The bad thing is it has a SCSI which
- >> doesn't work. Maybe ACT guys will fix it in a resonable time (will you?).
- >> Until then, for me in Europe, Warp isn't selling and
-
- >SCSI will be better, but it is not on the priority list. First,
- >Apollo 1260 will be released, and then the 2000 version with a completely new
- >SCSI design.
-
- Oh, not a priority :-(( This makes me sad. It has a great potential...
-
- And BTW: This is funny... If you switch all the catches off Apollo, you can even
- get CD working on scsi. Well, the system is to slow to be usable, but anyway. It
- rises some more speculations about the 68060.library and the catche. This
- library seems to me it is not 100%.
-
- Jernej
-
- BTW: What is your version of this library?
-
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